- Volume 1
- Volume 2
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Volume 3
- Introduction
- Methodology
- Social and demographic profile of witnesses
- Circumstances of admission
- Family contact
- Everyday life experiences (male witnesses)
- Record of abuse (male witnesses)
- Everyday life experiences (female witnesses)
- Record of abuse (female witnesses)
- Positive memories and experiences
- Current circumstances
- Introduction to Part 2
- Special needs schools and residential services
- Children’s Homes
- Foster care
- Hospitals
- Primary and second-level schools
- Residential Laundries, Novitiates, Hostels and other settings
- Concluding comments
- Volume 4
Chapter 2 — Finance
BackAdequacy of capitation
In addition, it was a consistent complaint even in contemporary documents that industrial training was used as a means of providing for the needs of the institution rather than the needs of the children. The impact of this varied from school to school and as between boys’ and girls’ schools.
Clothing, footwear, food, cooking and property maintenance were provided to the institution by the industrial training provided to the boys.
Clothing, cleaning, cooking and childcare were provided to the school by the industrial training offered to the girls.
In some Sister of Mercy schools such as Goldenbridge, rosary bead making and other industries provided a considerable extra income to the school.
There was evidence from complainants of baking and laundry facilities being made available to the public for profit.
Not all schools had these additional factors but some did. At the very least it might be expected that in schools that had extra resources, the capitation grant would be seen to go further and provide a better standard of care for some children. There was little evidence that this occurred and indeed some of the best physical care was given by schools such as St Joseph’s Kilkenny, which had almost no farming and no outside source of income.
Another significant factor identified by Mazars was the economies of scale that applied to the larger institutions. The Orders argued that the institutions’ fixed costs remained static irrespective of how many children were there. This fact, which was used to ground an application for increased funding when numbers began falling, was also true in reverse. Large institutions should have had the benefit of savings when in periods of full occupancy and yet the evidence pointed to greater deprivations during those periods.
Mazars’ findings were contrary to the assertions of the Congregations and the Department of Education. The Commission invited submissions from the four Congregations that were the subject of the accounts analysis in the third part of the Mazars’ report and from the Departments of Education and Science and Finance.
Response of the Christian Brothers
The submission by the Christian Brothers in response to Mazars was dismissive and critical of the Mazars’ approach in relation to adequacy of the capitation grant. This document exhibited a defensive approach by this Congregation to the investigation by the Committee. Instead of seriously analysing the funding issue and acknowledging the validity of the questions raised, the response sought to achieve by vehemence what it ought to be striving to do by way of analysis.
Mazars was asked to look at the capitation paid to ascertain whether it was enough to do the job intended. Mazars was not asked whether the system was cheaper or more expensive than that operated elsewhere. They were asked simply to analyse whether the money paid for the maintenance of the children was sufficient to do that. Mazars used comparators that were contemporaneous and directly relevant to the costs of childcare at that time.
Their analysis showed that when compared with costs in Ireland at the time, the capitation grant was adequate to care for the children to a reasonable standard. Other factors such as economies of scale, farming produce, contribution from trades and income from trades could be factored in, depending on the individual school, and these would also impact on the resources available to care for the children.
The Congregation did not respond to this analysis but simply dismissed the basis for it and insisted that the only valid comparator was the one they set out in their opening statements, that of a school in Northern Ireland or in the UK.
The Congregation criticised Mazars for failing to take note of the findings of the Kennedy Commission (1970), the Tuairim report (1966), and the Department of Education submission to this Committee. All submitted that the funding to Industrial Schools was inadequate. However, both of these reports were written at a time when numbers had fallen so dramatically that the system of funding, based on capitation, was under pressure. Even at this time, the payment per child was reasonable but the costs of keeping the institutions open for smaller numbers was becoming more burdensome and was taking an increasing amount out of the maintenance grant. The Department of Education acknowledged to the Committee that they had not conducted any investigation into the rates of capitation but had simply relied on the Kennedy and Tuairim reports and on the correspondence with the Resident Managers’ Association through the years.
The question Mazars was asked to investigate was whether the capitation was adequate throughout the relevant period including periods of high occupancy.
The Sisters of Mercy response
Some issues arose in relation to the Sisters of Mercy and Goldenbridge that also gave rise to questions on finance.
Footnotes
- Quoted in D of E submission, pp 103-4.
- Report of Commission of Inquiry into the Reformatory and Industrial School System, 1934-36, paras 165-7.
- These reforms are explained in a cogent six page Minute of 14th March 1944 written by the Department (Ó Dubhthaigh, Leas Runai) to the Runai, Department of Finance. The Minute also questioned the certification system’s legality:
- There is no justification for the ‘Certificate’ system. The Children Acts, 1908 to 1941, lay down the circumstances in which children may be committed to industrial schools. The Courts commit children to them in accordance with these Acts. At this stage the Certificate system operates inconsistently to allow payment of the State Grant on some of the children so committed and to forbid it on others. There seems to be no reason for the State’s failure to contribute to the support of some arbitrary number of those children. No such distinction is made, for instance, in the case of youthful offenders committed to Reformatories under the same Acts or of people sent to jail. If the purpose is to limit the number of children to which the Children Acts may apply, its legality is questionable.
- Memo of 4th April 1951 from M O’Siochfradha states:
- In all cases the actual accommodation limit was greater than the certified number and in many cases it was considerably greater viz., Glin – accommodation 220, certified number 190; Letterfrack, accommodation 190, certified number 165; Artane, accommodation 830, certified number 800.
- See also Education Statement, para 3.2.
- At certain periods (e.g. 1940s) anxious consideration was given to the question of how many places to certify – whether to raise or lower the previous year’s figure or to leave it the same. Among the factors weighing with the person taking the decision (usually there was a significant contribution from Dr McCabe) was: the numbers of committals anticipated; the suitability of the schools (e.g. accessibility from Dublin); the need to assist small schools with disproportionately high overheads; a desire to avoid creating jealousy among the schools.
- Data provided by Mazars indicates that a single man at the lowest point of the salary scale was paid £145 in 1944.
- Appendices to the Mazars’ Report are included on the Commissions website (www.childabusecommission.ie)
- Mazars, Part 4.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.2.3.
- Section 44 of the Children Act 1908.
- Mazars, Part 4.2.3.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.2.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.3.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.4.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.4.
- Mazars ‘Analysis of Stipends in Lieu of Salaries & Teachers’ Pay, March 2008’.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- That is approx £69,000 out of a total of £726,881.
- That is £251,000 out of £726,881.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.1.
- Mazars, Part 5.1.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.4.
- Submission of the Christian Brothers on the Review of Financial Matters Relating to the System of the Reformatory and Industrial Schools, and a Number of Individual Institutions 1939 to 1969 - Appendices to the Mazars’ Report are included on the Commissions website (www.childabusecommission.ie).
- Ciaran Fahy Report: see Vol I, ch 7, Appendix.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.4.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 13.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, pp 13-14.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 17.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, pp 17-18. Cf p 19.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 19.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 17.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 20.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 22.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 23.
- Mazars, Part 9.2.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 15.