- Volume 1
- Volume 2
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Volume 3
- Introduction
- Methodology
- Social and demographic profile of witnesses
- Circumstances of admission
- Family contact
- Everyday life experiences (male witnesses)
- Record of abuse (male witnesses)
- Everyday life experiences (female witnesses)
- Record of abuse (female witnesses)
- Positive memories and experiences
- Current circumstances
- Introduction to Part 2
- Special needs schools and residential services
- Children’s Homes
- Foster care
- Hospitals
- Primary and second-level schools
- Residential Laundries, Novitiates, Hostels and other settings
- Concluding comments
- Volume 4
Chapter 2 — Finance
BackResponse of the Christian Brothers
The submission by the Christian Brothers in response to Mazars was dismissive and critical of the Mazars’ approach in relation to adequacy of the capitation grant. This document exhibited a defensive approach by this Congregation to the investigation by the Committee. Instead of seriously analysing the funding issue and acknowledging the validity of the questions raised, the response sought to achieve by vehemence what it ought to be striving to do by way of analysis.
Mazars was asked to look at the capitation paid to ascertain whether it was enough to do the job intended. Mazars was not asked whether the system was cheaper or more expensive than that operated elsewhere. They were asked simply to analyse whether the money paid for the maintenance of the children was sufficient to do that. Mazars used comparators that were contemporaneous and directly relevant to the costs of childcare at that time.
Their analysis showed that when compared with costs in Ireland at the time, the capitation grant was adequate to care for the children to a reasonable standard. Other factors such as economies of scale, farming produce, contribution from trades and income from trades could be factored in, depending on the individual school, and these would also impact on the resources available to care for the children.
The Congregation did not respond to this analysis but simply dismissed the basis for it and insisted that the only valid comparator was the one they set out in their opening statements, that of a school in Northern Ireland or in the UK.
The Congregation criticised Mazars for failing to take note of the findings of the Kennedy Commission (1970), the Tuairim report (1966), and the Department of Education submission to this Committee. All submitted that the funding to Industrial Schools was inadequate. However, both of these reports were written at a time when numbers had fallen so dramatically that the system of funding, based on capitation, was under pressure. Even at this time, the payment per child was reasonable but the costs of keeping the institutions open for smaller numbers was becoming more burdensome and was taking an increasing amount out of the maintenance grant. The Department of Education acknowledged to the Committee that they had not conducted any investigation into the rates of capitation but had simply relied on the Kennedy and Tuairim reports and on the correspondence with the Resident Managers’ Association through the years.
The question Mazars was asked to investigate was whether the capitation was adequate throughout the relevant period including periods of high occupancy.
The Sisters of Mercy response
Some issues arose in relation to the Sisters of Mercy and Goldenbridge that also gave rise to questions on finance.
The Sisters of Mercy ran a lucrative bead-making industry in respect of which no accounts appeared to have survived. Inquiries by the Committee indicated that this activity brought in at least £50 per week.
In 1952, which was a time when the Resident Managers were demanding substantial increases in capitation allowances, the Sisters bought a large house in Rathdrum, County Wicklow, with this money, which they used as a summer house for the children for a couple of weeks every August. There was no record of any other Sisters of Mercy schools using Rathdrum and there is no evidence as to what it was used for during the other 11 months of the year. Such a purchase was not consistent with an institution struggling to survive. The Sisters’ response also dismissed the comparators used by Mazars on the basis that they failed to take into account the nature of the costs implicit in running an institution. It insisted that the only valid comparator was with a UK institution but, like the Christian Brothers’ submission, did not advert to the differences between the two systems.
The Rosminian response
The Rosminians also disputed the comparators used because of the inherent expenses in running an institution that were not reflected in ordinary household accounts. They stated: In any event, and critically, the schools were dealing with a situation which required remedial and restorative standards of care. This cannot be done on a tight budget, never mind a persistent deficit.
The allegations made against institutions – including Ferryhouse and Upton – were that basic care was not provided. The Commission accepts that high levels of individual care were not possible because of the lack of funds, but was concerned to establish to what extent serious neglect could be excused.
The Rosminians stated that their schools barely survived and that that would indicate either gross mismanagement by the Order, or underfunding by the State. All the evidence, they maintained pointed to the latter.
The Oblates of Mary Immaculate response
The Oblate response to the Mazars report was also defensive. The Oblates saw the Mazars’ report as an attempt to illustrate that the Order had profited from their involvement in Daingean and set about dismissing that proposition. They did not see that Mazars was engaged in a much simpler task. Their response set out the arguments for using UK schools as a benchmark for assessing the adequacy of the grant and they also engaged in a detailed exercise of looking at the costs of childcare in institutions today and adjusting these costs for inflation.
In relation to the ‘benchmarks’ used, they reiterated the point made by the other three submissions that Comparisons with the value of average family incomes, welfare benefits paid to families or family spending are unlikely to give a useful measure of the cost to the Oblates of running a residential institution.
Whilst this is true to a certain extent, the comparators used by Mazars are valid in assessing whether funding was adequate to provide basic physical care such as food, clothing and accommodation.
Footnotes
- Quoted in D of E submission, pp 103-4.
- Report of Commission of Inquiry into the Reformatory and Industrial School System, 1934-36, paras 165-7.
- These reforms are explained in a cogent six page Minute of 14th March 1944 written by the Department (Ó Dubhthaigh, Leas Runai) to the Runai, Department of Finance. The Minute also questioned the certification system’s legality:
- There is no justification for the ‘Certificate’ system. The Children Acts, 1908 to 1941, lay down the circumstances in which children may be committed to industrial schools. The Courts commit children to them in accordance with these Acts. At this stage the Certificate system operates inconsistently to allow payment of the State Grant on some of the children so committed and to forbid it on others. There seems to be no reason for the State’s failure to contribute to the support of some arbitrary number of those children. No such distinction is made, for instance, in the case of youthful offenders committed to Reformatories under the same Acts or of people sent to jail. If the purpose is to limit the number of children to which the Children Acts may apply, its legality is questionable.
- Memo of 4th April 1951 from M O’Siochfradha states:
- In all cases the actual accommodation limit was greater than the certified number and in many cases it was considerably greater viz., Glin – accommodation 220, certified number 190; Letterfrack, accommodation 190, certified number 165; Artane, accommodation 830, certified number 800.
- See also Education Statement, para 3.2.
- At certain periods (e.g. 1940s) anxious consideration was given to the question of how many places to certify – whether to raise or lower the previous year’s figure or to leave it the same. Among the factors weighing with the person taking the decision (usually there was a significant contribution from Dr McCabe) was: the numbers of committals anticipated; the suitability of the schools (e.g. accessibility from Dublin); the need to assist small schools with disproportionately high overheads; a desire to avoid creating jealousy among the schools.
- Data provided by Mazars indicates that a single man at the lowest point of the salary scale was paid £145 in 1944.
- Appendices to the Mazars’ Report are included on the Commissions website (www.childabusecommission.ie)
- Mazars, Part 4.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.2.3.
- Section 44 of the Children Act 1908.
- Mazars, Part 4.2.3.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.3.1.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.2.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.3.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.4.
- Mazars, Part 4.4.4.
- Mazars ‘Analysis of Stipends in Lieu of Salaries & Teachers’ Pay, March 2008’.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- That is approx £69,000 out of a total of £726,881.
- That is £251,000 out of £726,881.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.1.
- Mazars, Part 5.1.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.2.
- Mazars, Part 5.4.
- Submission of the Christian Brothers on the Review of Financial Matters Relating to the System of the Reformatory and Industrial Schools, and a Number of Individual Institutions 1939 to 1969 - Appendices to the Mazars’ Report are included on the Commissions website (www.childabusecommission.ie).
- Ciaran Fahy Report: see Vol I, ch 7, Appendix.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.2.
- Mazars, Part 7.4.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.2.
- Mazars, Part 8.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Mazars, Part 6.4.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 13.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, pp 13-14.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 17.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, pp 17-18. Cf p 19.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 19.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 17.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 20.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 22.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 23.
- Mazars, Part 9.2.
- Rosminian Final Submissions, p 15.